"I just needed to post this so that I'd finally have something of substance up."
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"A friendship is a friendship and it probably will cease to exist unless Marchant stops dwellling on something stupid that I don't even want to talk about."
Self-centered, much? I understand that you've finally discussed the issue, but don't you think its a bit immature to not want to discuss something just because you think its "stupid"? Especially since it was something that was obviously bothering someone you call your friend.
Posted by You don't know me, so even if i told you my name it would mean nothing @ 02/22/2004 09:26 PM CST
Thanks, Alan.
In resolution, Cassie and I have finally discussed the issues and are on speaking terms again.
Posted by marchant @ 02/21/2004 03:11 PM CST
I believe I missed something... yeah...
Posted by G @ 02/20/2004 11:49 PM CST
Cassie, You should move on with your life and forget about Marchant. He is a pompous, arrogant jerk.
Posted by Alan @ 02/20/2004 07:48 PM CST
The fact that a perfect stranger is attacking me for no reason is not a minor deal. I refuse to sit here and take your crap for no reason.
I made no accusations. Therefore, I cannot "explain" them to him.
I did not post anything about my personal life until Marchant brought it up. He had no reason or right to do that.
Posted by Cassie @ 02/20/2004 12:22 PM CST
A few points:
1. Marchant was accused of something pretty serious and it didn't come from thin air.
2. For this to be such a minor issue, you sure have dwelt on it a lot.
3. If you don't want personal information to get out, try not posting it to public forums.
Posted by Victor Von Doom @ 02/20/2004 05:04 AM CST
Marchant,
I back you up.
Posted by DW @ 02/20/2004 01:25 AM CST
"Victor," One more thing... is it justified for Marchant to go around talking about my personal life without my permission or facts? Even IF I treated him badly (which is ridiculous), as a Christian, would that justify his behavior?
He doesn't know all of the facts. He didn't even get his information from me. He made a HUGE assumption regarding details of my personal life. On top of that, he posted it for people to read. Classy (sarcasm), tasteless, rude, tactless, cheap, having a total disregard for etiquette, manners, or basic code of conduct, or not... is it right for him to do that? No.
Yeah, I want to retract what I said earlier about not saying bad things about him. Edit "I have said nothing bad about him and will continue to stay silent," and change it to "I will not curse at him."
The more I think about him writing about my personal life like that, the less I am able to respect him.
Posted by Cassie @ 02/19/2004 01:36 PM CST
You are not around for any of our conversations and you do not know the whole story. So before you judge anyone, stay out of other people's business.
His "forums" are free. Everyone is invited, right? Right. I didn't know you were a moderator.
I never said Marchant was a horrible person. I did not start any of this. Since when are you his keeper and what makes you think you know how much of his time other people deserve?
I admire you for wanting to stick up for your friend, but at least do it in a manly manner. Use your real name. This little tiff is not fair seeing as you know OH SO MUCH about me and I know nothing about you. Obviously that gives you a right to judge me and I am at a disadvantage.
Josh is wonderful but that has nothing to do with cutting off ties with Marchant. A friendship is a friendship and it probably will cease to exist unless Marchant stops dwellling on something stupid that I don't even want to talk about.
I made no accusations. He was in an argument with other people and I am not getting in the middle of it. I said that I am dropping the issue. If he can't let it go, then he is free to hang onto it for as long as he wants.
I treat him poorly? If I treated him poorly, there would be a lot of things that I would say about him. Maybe you should think about what I am NOT saying. I am not the kind of person to maliciously deface someone's character. I have said nothing bad about him and will continue to stay silent. This is not a threat, I am trying to explain why you are wrong.
Posted by Cassie @ 02/18/2004 11:02 PM CST
My argument is with your attitude in general. For someone who constantly belittles Marchant, you spend a lot of time posting on his forums. If Marchant is such a horrible person, then shut up and leave him alone. He's given you a lot more time than you deserve, trying to be your friend and you've treated him like garbage the whole way. If your new guy is so great, then you should have no problem cutting off all ties with Marchant.
Posted by Victor Von Doom @ 02/18/2004 08:49 PM CST
Victor- If you have a specific argument with anything I said, please state that. If not, I have no idea what point you are trying to get across other than making yourself look like a taunting jerk without a purpose. Please be mature and keep the insults to yourself or at least be a man and put down your real name.
Jeremy, I completely understand what you are saying. I can't tell you why some people take the chance or just have sex for the sake of having it, but I CAN tell you why I chose to, just send me your e-mail address.
Waiting until marriage is something that I figured I was going to do. I changed my mind about a year ago and to me, sex with still be special when I'm married whether or not I am a virgin.
I agree that pop-culture, the media, society in general seems to tell kids that it is okay to have premarital sex, but if you want to talk censorship, I won't go there. I think it is up to the parents to be responsible for teaching children values, morals and controlling what their kids see on television.
Posted by Cassie @ 02/17/2004 01:55 PM CST
"Where did I state that I was "wise" or imply that I knew more than anyone else? "
Seems to me that a six part manifesto more than implies that.
Posted by Victor Von Doom @ 02/17/2004 12:23 PM CST
Cassie, I just don't understand why people (including yourself) are willing to have premarital sex and "take the chance" that it might blow the relationship to pieces. Even if you have sex with the "right person".
Why not just wait until marriage to "strengthen" that relationship, which should not end except by death? A premarital relationship could justly end at any time because the girl and guy haven't made the official promises to each other to be together forever no matter what.
I think that the messages that movies and TV has been sending to youth encourages premarital sex "if you feel it's right", or "if it's the right person." To me, the "right person" is the one that you will marry (if you get married for the right reasons).
Posted by Jeremy @ 02/17/2004 11:00 AM CST
Marit,
I'm a fan... I want to thank you for making me laugh every time I read your comments.
Posted by dix @ 02/17/2004 01:09 AM CST
So Victor... I suppose that you know everything because you are what? Maybe 3 years older than me at the most? Oh yes... that's right... you are much wiser.
Where did I state that I was "wise" or imply that I knew more than anyone else?
I cannot help it if Marchant is being petty and cannot drop an issue that is retarded.
Posted by Cassie @ 02/16/2004 10:55 PM CST
The amount of knowlege and wisdom that 19 year olds acquire is staggering.
Posted by Victor Von Doom @ 02/16/2004 08:27 PM CST
I reiterate...until she makes an effort to address the subject, I will not be talking to her.
Posted by marchant @ 02/16/2004 07:35 PM CST
"Grape jelly meatballs" turns up 436 results in google. That's the most fucked up thing I've heard all week.
Posted by Marit @ 02/16/2004 02:27 PM CST
Oops... sorry... one more thing...
6. The movie was about 1,000,000,000 times better than "Conversation with Oneself" but a bit too long.
Posted by Cassie @ 02/16/2004 01:54 PM CST
1. Josh and Vince do not speak for me. Vince threatened you... big deal... the kid is 16 and always goes crazy with words. He is not mature enough to handle real life yet... but he's starting college next fall. Sheesh. Josh never threatened you.
2. Thanks for voicing my PERSONAL thoughts on sex. Very mature and respectful of you, Marchant.
3. I will not go into these stupid "accusations" with anyone. I will not "clarify" anything because honestly... the entire subject is retarded and should never have been brought up.
4a. How did you know I had sex? I told ONE person. That was my mother.
4b. Why would you feel "upset/saddened/whatever" about it? I'm in a great relationship and I can't believe I found someone like him.
5. Jeremy, there are studies and books proving every side of every argument. It is all too simple to find statistics in favor of any claim. That's just human nature. I chose to have sex for several reasons and I do not think that anyone who does should be looked down upon.
Sex can either make a relationship stronger or blow it to pieces. It is a chance that a lot of people are willing to take. I feel like I waited for the right man and I'm happy with my decision.
I think the most important thing here is not having any regrets. If I had slept with Marchant, I would have regrets (no offense there).
Sex is over-rated and at the same time, under-rated in today's culture. The most important parts of relationships are not physical and so much importance should not be placed on sex, otherwise there will be problems. Then again, some people take that too far and sleep with everyone they see. At that point, sex means less in a relationship. Very few people have found the right balance.
Sorry to make this so long.
Posted by Cassie @ 02/16/2004 01:40 PM CST
If what you said is true about her having wanted to have sex with you, the allegations she's now making are nothing short of ridiculous. Even if the allegations were true, why is she bringing them up now and not earlier?
I too would be upset if I heard about her recently "doing it" with her new man. Then again, I'm disappointed when I hear about anybody having premarital sex. As Christians, we believe that it's Biblically wrong. But logically, I still don't see why anyone would subject themselves to the physical and emotional consequences of it all. I think it hurts in the long run if you don't wait (based on what I've heard and read), and that's why I'm waiting until marriage.
Posted by Jeremy @ 02/16/2004 12:26 PM CST
